i think nancy pelosi actually comes out of this with a little bit more leverage, because it's clear that any deal that gets done is going to need democratic support. and as we know, she has been a far more effective leader than john boehner has. >> sure. moments ago, the president and his family left for hawaii on board air force one. what does this look like to the american people? i know the senate is gone and the house is gone. here goes the president to hawaii. i mean, where is the sense of urgency here? and i blame all lawmakers for this. >> i agree with you, ed. i mean, i think the optics of this is really disturbing. if you are sitting at home, and you're telling yourself, okay, i'm not quite sure what is going to happen with my tax rates and for next year. so how much am i going to spend now on christmas? how much am i getting back? those kinds of questions, that kind of uncertainty, what is going to happen with payroll taxes, what is going to happen with unemployment. and you see everybody kind of just leaving town, great that they're willing to come back next week, but you know